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Post by deesloop on Aug 9, 2012 16:35:04 GMT -5
And can someone explain the difference between items with bless and Bless or lucky and Lucky.
I think killa or stat had a go in the TS but I've kinda forgotten...
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Post by Dragon_Stalker on Aug 9, 2012 18:15:33 GMT -5
Stat wise, Bless and bless are identical, as are lucky and Lucky.
The CAPITAL letter usually means that the item was added by scroll. Occassionally, an item can come with Bless or Lucky on it randomly (just like an additional rare attribute). These are never considered rare or valuable UNLESS they PRECEED a rare ability. Since rare abilities cannot be added with scrolls, they must be FOUND that way. If a Bless or Lucky comes BEFORE a rare, it means that it is a double rare (of sorts).
Use a SAC as example.
Normal configuration: 140a bless lucky
When scrolled with Bless scroll: 140a lucky Bless
When scrolled with Lucky scroll: 140a bless Lucky
If the SAC had a rare attribute, it would look like this: 140a bless lucky Blast
If that RARE SAC were scrolled, it would look like this: 140a bless BLAST Lucky
If it were a double rare it might look like this: 140a bless Lucky Blast
The difference is the order.
P.S. Half Plates dropped by the castle guards are an exception, because ALL Half plates come with natural Bless (capitalized). This doesn't make them any more or less rare, though. (Half plates in the fields have no natural bless at all).
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Post by deesloop on Aug 11, 2012 2:09:30 GMT -5
Cheers for that D_S - very comprehensive, althought, not sure I get the logic for the last item? It's double rare becaue the Luck is before the rare attribute and it's capitalised? If it was a rare that had been scrolled with luck it would look more like the previous item? So why has the 2nd last item got BLAST rather than Blast or blast? Or is that simply a typo? And what is NATS? Need Another Twenty Silvers? Not Awesome Trading Skill? Cheers
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Post by Dragon_Stalker on Aug 11, 2012 7:30:59 GMT -5
The last item is RARE, because the ONLY way to get a capital letter Bless or Lucky BEFORE a rare ability (Blast, Disease, Illuminati, etc) is for it to be FOUND that way. A 140a SAC with Blast can be scrolled with a Bless or Lucky scroll, but the capitalized Bless or Lucky will be MOVED to the bottom of the list.
Nats, are short for natural enchants. It means the item was FOUND with a few enchant scrolls on it. Similarly to Bless and Lucky, these can be rare or NOT.
140a SAC bless lucky Enchant (6)
Not rare, since this can be duplicated with scrolls.
140a SAC bless lucky Enchant (6) Blast
That's rare (double) since the NAT enchants AND the Blast cannot be duplicated unless found that way.
About capitalized Blast, that means that the weapon does NOT come with it naturally. For example, Matchlock Rifles come with blast instead of Blast. Silver Glads come with blind instead of Blind.
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