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Post by Torra on Sept 18, 2009 0:32:53 GMT -5
Ralbu, finding 2 CJFs in one week, pretty much makes you kind of the 'statistical anomalies' That is truly fantastic luck! I'm running at about the same stats on spikys...though, 3 is my haul for one play. A/C don't envy me that was an undisputed fluke of nth sort....they were both 168a to add weird on top of odd (and after 10 years of on/off play...I was 'statistically' due to have some bizarre statistic show up ) Still wondering about the odds for DAs .... any ideas?
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Post by ralbu on Sept 18, 2009 3:19:35 GMT -5
Dwarf axes? For me it seems they are more rare than spikeys. I started recently playing another char of mine just trying to make CSB sets. After about 400 quests (running from anything else but snots... of course not all runs were succesful ) I found 3 DA's. And I think i killed around 40 snots ... so very low rate... maybe around 10% for a snot to appear and 10% for a snot to drop a DA.... which would mean 1% of getting a DA for each quest you spend in the forest
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Post by Torra on Sept 18, 2009 14:27:34 GMT -5
My record with my level 33 character is 7 DAs in one day...running from everything but snots & Gryffins (have to try for those wits ). Ralbu, thank you for the stats....I've had a mixed bag of results with other characters...not sure why? 1/100 sounds reasonable, but was hoping that it was closer to 1/50 but, who wouldn't be lol. This why I was concerned about you trading in all your guild skills for mage skills without the trader skills to balance it out. Don't the trader skills increase your chances of getting your quest back when you successfully run away from creatures? Some, I know, give you back your quest every time you run away, but some only give you back your quest if your 'merchant' skills kick in? I have always been confused by this...successful running away sometimes give you wits (Mage), but it's the Trader (charm) skills that determine how successful you are at running away?!?
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Post by ralbu on Sept 18, 2009 16:58:01 GMT -5
Very good point Torra about how charm influences wits I am not sure about how running away works and how Trader skills influence it. IT would be nice if someone could come in here and enlighten us 7 DA's in one day is nice I had 3 DA's in one day, but I only started farming them few days ago. I will try to keep an eye out on the drop chance.
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Post by AC_Shadow on Sept 20, 2009 21:24:06 GMT -5
my record was 16 DA's on one of my higher leveled chars =D
I found yet another SAC in the past few days
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Post by Torra on Oct 3, 2009 12:53:10 GMT -5
my record was 16 DA's on one of my higher leveled chars =D I found yet another SAC in the past few days 16!?!? Holy Crap!!! How "higher level" are we talking about here, AC? And, what are that character's mage/trader guild skills? I found a SAC yesterday...112 LOL hardly worth the shock. Ralbu, how is your quest recovery rate on running away, now that you've got so many Mage skills and so few Trader skills? You're in a prime position to determine how Trader skills influence the chance of getting your quest back after a successful run.
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Post by Dragonfire45 on Oct 3, 2009 16:13:56 GMT -5
ok ac, please tell me your are questing with a bunch of characters in azteca, and not just your main. cause if the latter is the case I am gonna be really pissed.
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Post by killadaemon666 on Oct 3, 2009 16:49:12 GMT -5
yo df ive been questing 4 chars in azteca and for the last few days ive been on average getting one sac a day for a week. this is how i see it.
11111111111111111111111111111111111111011111111111111111111111111111111111
say this line represents the drops of a warrior where 0= a silver now when u log in to ur char it could start anywhere within this line so if u wanted to find sacs what u want to do is increase ur warrior encounters by not waisting quests on the other creatures 4 example say u quest and u kill all monsters it could look like this for ur warrior encounters
1111111111[11111111111111111]11111111111111111101111111111111111111111
where these[] represent the start and stop of ur quests now if u try and avoid all confrontations cept the warriors it could look like this
1111111111111111111111111111[111111111111111111111111101111111111]111
in this scenario a sac was gained but the important thing is the amount of warrior encounters is much greater. so the only way ur gonna gain a sac by killing all the monsters is if when ur quests start u are really close to the silver drop so because u are increasing ur encounters it allows u to gain sacs if u start farther away from the silver drop. i hope this isnt confusing u this is just an opinion but lately ive managed to test it out and it seems like a pretty solid theory to me. now the odds of a sac are 1/1500 so id imagine there would be 1499 1's to one 0 in the actual game codeing but i can not say 4 sure as i did not write the game but this is my opinion perhaps someone can find it useful.
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Post by Torra on Oct 4, 2009 18:06:40 GMT -5
Congrats Killa....now you've become a SAC finding machine (Oops, No...just don't even THINK about touching that. : But, thank you for the graphics and the explanation Very astute of you.
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Post by AC_Shadow on Oct 4, 2009 20:24:22 GMT -5
my record was 16 DA's on one of my higher leveled chars =D I found yet another SAC in the past few days 16!?!? Holy Crap!!! How "higher level" are we talking about here, AC? And, what are that character's mage/trader guild skills? Not too much of a high level, around level 35 i think? the char had around 30-40 trader/mage skills each ok ac, please tell me your are questing with a bunch of characters in azteca, and not just your main. cause if the latter is the case I am gonna be really pissed. actually my main is the only char that quests in azteca and i quest him daily, comes to show how benefitting it is once you get to know how to spend your quests wisely and carefully
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Post by killadaemon666 on Oct 5, 2009 11:05:19 GMT -5
hehehe u got a dirty mind torra...... heheheh i like that in a woman lol unfortunately u are a little bit to young 4 me as i am almost 300 years old hehehe... also i have a little wager goin on with the ant i said that i could find a 224a sac b4 she gives away the one she is supposed to giveaway so far ive managed 2 find 2 196a sacs in a week so she better hurry up....
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Post by Dragonfire45 on Oct 5, 2009 22:11:47 GMT -5
thanks for the detailed explaination killa (that is actually similar to one of the ways I have thought about it in the past), but I have known about the whole, "avioding unnessesary confrontaions" strategy for years now.
and wow ac, I basicaly hate you and your good luck. I quest my main at least 5 days a week, quest soley for stats and warriors, and I havent found an SAC in over a year. I mean, even if I dont get quite as many quests as you due to level or less skill (less successful running), wtf?!
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Post by Torra on Oct 8, 2009 1:47:32 GMT -5
Yea, I'm with you DF! Between his daily stats gains and his weapon finding luck...AC should be on everybody's hit list!! LOL Killa, You're just a menace...lol... I don't have the dirty mind...I just happen to know who does though I can't believe that just a couple of weeks ago you were bemoaning the fact that you can't find SACs and now you've found two 196s!!!! That's great luck. Ralbu, I read somewhere on WW that you need, I believe, 5 trader skills for successful fleeing (getting your quest back). I'm sure Sirinnu was the author of the information, but for the life of me I can't remember which thread it's in
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Post by ralbu on Oct 8, 2009 11:04:43 GMT -5
Hmmm.... I'll go check it out. I thought 2 or 3 were enough. If I find the thread I'll link it here.
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Post by Dragonfire45 on Oct 8, 2009 19:27:31 GMT -5
I always thought it was 3. could be wrong though.
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