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Post by Gawayn on Jul 20, 2011 12:01:40 GMT -5
I'm a little confused about why making the skill listing different is important. There's a challenge in the Fame listing because it can erode quickly depending on how you play - a new player can ascend it fairly fast. But skill is also dependent on your stats - stats that can take a long time to get high. Fame rewards immediate questing choices, whereas skill can reward the longevity of playing - or your suit choices. The only way for a new player to climb the skill rankings right now is to get a high-end suit. How could skill rankings be changed to make it more fluid, yet not disenfranchising players who've worked high to get their stats high? Could we make wits/charm worth more skill points than before (1 wit = 10 skill, 1 charm 5)? That way your suit could still affect your skill total, but so would working hard on your character.
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Post by Ninja Dathron on Jul 20, 2011 12:40:34 GMT -5
I think making the skill list important is because it's always been the highest esteemed list, as as you said, it's about your stats and suit. I just suggest taking tiques out of the skill list, so that it's slightly more fluid, but will end up being determined more by your stats than your suit. It'll be pretty quick, to get a high-end suit that would be top 24 or top 12. Then, the trick would be to get stats high enough to actually rank high on the lists.
Although I really like your suggestions Gawayn, like valuing wits/charm higher. That would definitely help to reward players who work on their stats.
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Post by King_Smitty on Jul 20, 2011 17:30:46 GMT -5
the skill list could be updated to not combine weapon skill to players all around skill, would that be possible? Fix the skill list to actually something competitive, instead of who has the better items
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Post by Baked_Bean on Jul 20, 2011 18:41:30 GMT -5
Hmm...what if we added the attribute 'Antique' to all existing tique weapons, and then have a second skill list on which you only appear if you aren't wearing any tiques?
That way, people could still wear their tiques and appear on the tique skill list, but there would also be another list for people wearing regular gear.
I agree that the skill list isn't a huge part of the game, but it is all about introducing more competetiveness into the game. I know we're all friends and we're only playing cause it's fun, but at the end of the day i'm sure we're all competetive deep down and the more competativeness we can bring in the more interesting the game will be!
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Post by King_Smitty on Jul 20, 2011 20:40:49 GMT -5
oh thats sounds smexy! Antique list? Very good, this way we get to keep tiques! Hurray Bean! haha I like that idea, even with competitiveness or not, its about the pride in seeing ur name on any list in the top 12!
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Post by Ninja Dathron on Jul 20, 2011 20:46:33 GMT -5
That sounds great, Bean. And I like Smitty's idea of maybe splitting once more, having the skill list, and then adding a Stats list to focus on g/w/c. But that would only be a nice little addition, not as important as I think a tweak for tiques is.
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Post by Varn on Jul 20, 2011 22:54:32 GMT -5
i would just like to see a new area and new weapons. maybe new pictures. i dont want anything to really change just things added to the game. oh and the glitches fixed of course.
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Post by dingy on Jul 20, 2011 23:10:43 GMT -5
i would just like to see a new area and new weapons. maybe new pictures. i dont want anything to really change just things added to the game. oh and the glitches fixed of course. this...also a dueling arena lol
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Post by Baked_Bean on Jul 21, 2011 6:27:34 GMT -5
would love to add a dueling arena! not sure if thats possible though...i'll look into it, but it would take a lot of coding!
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Post by Bre'Cheye on Jul 21, 2011 15:12:03 GMT -5
would love to add a dueling arena! not sure if thats possible though...i'll look into it, but it would take a lot of coding! Bean: have you ever played a game called Legend of the Green Dragon? It was created by someone who was an "old timer" of DC (don't know his name-- and he died a couple years ago)... but that game is text based with a chat and the ability to duel others. You can have the option to not to duel or to duel. In that game, you have a certain number of quests but can be logged in 24 hours at a time if you want. And if you don't choose to "not duel," then someone can attack your character while you may be offline. anyway.... Like Varn said, I'd like to keep it the same but just add new things. And it might be fun (maybe) to have a chat added to it. (like in DC2)
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Post by King_Smitty on Jul 21, 2011 16:45:55 GMT -5
i used to play LotGD!! but with DC, dueling would be tough because you'd most likely have one or maybe two rounds and someone will be dead, which i mean is cool, but it would be drastically one sided in favor of those with nice suits. If you had a system that would show g/w/c and a/d/s you could make it so others would be able to play against another of similar stats, it could work. I dont know if it would ever be real-time pvp, the way to do it would have to be to insert yourself into the arena, and allow you to battle others who also have their names in the arena. maybe if it was setup if u entered the arena you would forfeit your quests for the day and then battled other characters in the arena till you die. Then until reset, your name is available to be battled by other players who are also in the arena. Winnings would most likely be marks, and buckets of fame. If you arent logged in but are in the arena, you would probably get marks and fame via mail or something. But in reality thatd be too hard to code and keep DC as it basically is. Whats more, you would have those with the ingenuity to realize if u keep a bigger weapon in ur pack, and swapped it in and out for each battle, your stats would change and would line you up with the stats of someone with a weaker weapon, thus making it unfair to even be in the arena. As much as I like having a dueling arena, it would most likely have to be a separate applet that would be able to load characters from DC, that would be the easiest option for sure. and thats a whole nother converstation
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Post by Baked_Bean on Jul 21, 2011 20:09:21 GMT -5
A p v p where you're opponents are real people but not real time could work. Could be like when you enter the arena you're weapons are fixed and no items can be used in battle, and then you battle against other people in the arena. No quests lots, no exp or items gained or anything, no penalty for losing, but perhaps we could have a leaderboard...most wins, highest win/loss record, something like that.
Would be worth looking into, but not for a while
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Post by dingy on Jul 21, 2011 21:07:58 GMT -5
if a dueling arena was possible i think you'd need a set gear that can be found that is only usable in the arena. a pvp suit of sorts.
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Post by Baked_Bean on Jul 21, 2011 21:34:23 GMT -5
Hehe maybe we could make it so that you can only use items with the rare attribute 'Duel' on them? That would be cool!
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Post by King_Smitty on Jul 22, 2011 0:23:42 GMT -5
i would play the $%#& outta this game!! oh wait, I already do!!
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